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Comment by Jacob Coakley on August 30, 2012 at 11:02am

John - I added your comment to a discussion, that way people can link to it more easily, and all the comments will be in one place. You can find it here: Shut down pros and Cons

Comment by John Kimball on August 29, 2012 at 6:30pm

Shut down pros and cons; I'm running a show with a hybrid collection of fixtures, conventional, scrollers, movers and LEDs and am wondering if there is a definitive ansewer to daily shutdown. I shut off discharge lamps by dmx but there are still are fans and internal processors running verses cutting power and then restarting a day later with all the resetting and homing procedures of scrollers and movers. There is also the electronic issue of shutting off the console or not. My normal procedure is; turn on control (console, splitter) then power on fixtures. End of show reverse the process.

My question is; given the wear and tear of the startup conniptions does this make sense on a daily basis? When the show is dark for 2-3 days yes but daily?

Comment by Kyle Bjordahl on September 21, 2011 at 10:39am
Ditto on the ACLs, or if you can't get them, VNSP pars with some fraction of blue will get you a similar effect. Then again, so would a 2.5k HMI, if you have that available. It would definitely give you the stark, cool, high color temperature light, but then again you also need a DMX shutter for it.
Comment by Gerard Bourcier on July 3, 2011 at 7:37am

Aaron, $60-80K for a Grand Ma or $6-8K for an ETC Ion. If your facility has the money, bless you. I would go with the Ion and if you have money left over get some new units - LEDs, movers, Seachangers - whatever you could forsee needing and using.

John, ACLs produce a nice bright white light, and if need be put some Rx 3216 or 3208 (1/8  or 1/4 Blue) gel in front to "whiten" the light

Comment by JOHN BRANDL on July 2, 2011 at 4:42pm
Aaron, we just got an Element 6 months ago and we love it.
Comment by JOHN BRANDL on July 2, 2011 at 4:40pm
I'm getting ready to do ESCANABA IN DA MOONLIGHT & I've not used LED because our high school stage doesn't have any yet, but to get the intense bright white UFO light, that's what I need to use, isn't it?
Comment by David McCall on June 27, 2011 at 6:44am
I just noticed that the PCstage web site is now closed. Does anyone know anything about this? I own and love PCstage and have recommending it to anyone that will listen. If Michael has gone out of business, then I should stop pushing it. No?
Comment by Michael Roche on March 15, 2011 at 2:34pm
I've programmed professionally on the Eos on very large theatre and corporate gigs, but I do have to admit that the GrandMA is a superior console from an operations perspective. I'm still becoming proficient on the MA, but it's already clear that it's much more powerful and dynamic than an Eos family console - however this comes at the expense of intuitive operation and ease of use. Unless you will have programmers who are willing to spend hours becoming proficient with the console, I would definitely go with the Eos/Ion. I've never been a huge fan of the Element, and with that many moving lights, I'd aim for at least an Ion or higher. The Eos family is nice in that it can be tremendously powerful with an experienced programmer at the console, but it's also very easy for inexperienced programmers to get the basics without too much trouble.
Comment by Michael S. Mauren on March 15, 2011 at 1:37pm
I'd recommend the ETC ION. With a 2x20 fader wing it makes sub control very easy and does a good job with leds and movers. A bit more expensive than the Element, but it has better capibilities and there is more room to grow.

I can't speak to a grandMA though, I haven't had the oppportunity to use one yet.

Good luck in your journey.
Comment by Robert W. Osterhout on March 15, 2011 at 1:35pm
I vote for the ETC Ion.  Not the cheapest but the most flexible/expandable/update able.
 

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